Games drop out to desktop when starting

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Games drop out to desktop when starting

Post by gadgetman805 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:39 pm

Hi Zeb,

I have the V3 board installed in my cabinet. It has always had a weird issue where it would randomly just lock up. Cabinet buttons would stop working all together. I use PinballX for my front end and most of the times when I opened it up it would work fine. But every few starts, the FE would open up and it would make the sound like I was changing tables with the flipper buttons and it would be locked up. If I unplugged the USB on the plunger and plugged it back in, it would reconnect and work fine. This has been happening since I setup the cabinet.

A few days ago I began noticing a new issue. When starting a table through PinballX, it would start to load the games fine but just as the playfields would normally come on, the main display would drop out tot he desktop. This happens on both VPX and Pinball FX3. I can do an Alt-Tab to cycle through back to the playfield window and it comes back on just fine. Gameplay and button functions seem ok too with the exception that the cabinet button I use to exit (Q) stops working. It never did that before.

I did a lot of troubleshooting the past few days. Disabling options in the apps, not running the x360ce etc. and the only time I get the problem to go away was when I unplug the plunger. I'm not sure if I might be missing an update or something. Like I said, the one issue has been happening sporadically for a long time. The desktop display issue has just been the past few days.

Here is a link to a couple of vids showing what happens. One shows the startup working fine. The following run hangs up.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

Any help you can offer would be much appreciated!

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Re: Games drop out to desktop when starting

Post by Zebulon » Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:51 am

Hi,

What does that error box that comes up on the screen say? That's what is switching the focus away from the game on the playfield.

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Re: Games drop out to desktop when starting

Post by gadgetman805 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:50 am

Hi,

There is no error screen. The ones that are in the Alt-Tab window that look like an error are actually the x360ce screen and browser window that was opened before I ran the PinballX. I have never seen an error when this happens and it really doesn't stop working, as if an error occurred. It just seems to jump out of the table window yet it is still running in the background.

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Re: Games drop out to desktop when starting

Post by Zebulon » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:52 am

Have you turned off letting PinballX control the inputs in the PinballX\Config\PinballX.ini file?
I seem to recall by default it wants to use its own assignments. What you are experiencing seems to be PinballX wanting to use its controller setup rather than the xbox360ce settings.

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Re: Games drop out to desktop when starting

Post by gadgetman805 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:56 am

I'll check that today and post the findings later. I only run x360ce when a VPX table loads, so it isn't always running. I have batch files that load and kill it when the VPX table loads and ends.

Thanks!

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Re: Games drop out to desktop when starting

Post by gadgetman805 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:26 pm

I don't see a specific setting for key inputs aside from the Run Before batch file that opens the x360ce app. Unless you are saying I should clear out the Joystick settings in Pinballx. I have included the pinballx.ini contents below.


[Display]
Monitor=2
rotate=0
Windowed=False
windowwidth=812
windowheight=457
windowx=543
windowy=752
PlayFieldBrightness=230
WheelTextColor=ffffffff
WheelTextOutlineColor=ff000000
InfoTextColor=ffffffff
InfoTextOutlineColor=ff000000
FilterTextColor=ffffffff
FilterTextOutlineColor=ff000000
MenuColor=ffffa500
WheelAutoCrop=False
[BackGlass]
monitor=1
x=0
y=0
width=1920
height=1080
AutoPositionB2S=True
[DMD]
Enabled=True
monitor=0
x=0
y=0
width=1920
height=1080
AutoPositionPinMAME=True
HidePinMAME=True
UsePinMAME=False
[FileSystem]
EnableFileMatching=False
[Interface]
UseTableLoadingMedia=True
GIFbackgroundcolor=ff0000ff
DesktopModeEnabled=False
EnableAdditionalDetail=True
ShowSystem=True
ShowRatings=False
WheelOverlay=0
SystemsListShowFirst=False
EnableDefaultFilters=False
[Audio]
StreamVolume=90
SampleVolume=90
PlaySoundInVideos=True
[Startup]
playsound=False
playvideo=True
StartWithWindows=No
[KeyCodes]
quit=81
left=160
right=161
select=49
rotate=82
pageleft=162
pageright=163
exitemulator=81
ingame=80
screenshot=83
capturevideos=86
instructions=73
volumedown=187
volumeup=189
credit=67
plunger=32
launch=13
[JoyCodes]
quit=20
left=0
right=15
select=2
rotate=11
pageleft=
pageright=9
exitemulator=8
ingame=13
instructions=20
launch=17
Credit=7
Plunger=20
[Text]
All=All
PlayGameTwoPlayer=Two Player Game
Line1=Free Play
Line2=Press Start
Featuring=Featuring
Tables=Tables
PlayGame=Play Game
Instructions=Instructions
Information=Information
Flyer=Flyer
Gameplay=Gameplay
Tutorial=Tutorial
Promo=Promo
ExitGame=Exit Game
ReturnToGame=Return to Game
Return=Return
Exit=Exit
Shutdown=Shutdown
Favorite=Favorite
Favorites=Favorites
FavoritesAdd=Add To Favorites
FavoritesRemove=Remove From Favorites
MostPlayed=Most Played
LastPlayed=Last Played
Lists=Lists
CapturingVideos=Capturing videos. Please wait. This will take several minutes.
Ratings=Ratings
HighScores=High Scores
RateTable=Rate Table
NotRated=Not Rated
Systems=Systems
RecentlyAdded=Recently Added
[FuturePinball]
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=C:\Pinball\FuturePinball
TablePath=C:\Pinball\Tables
Executable=Future Pinball.exe
Parameters=/open "[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" /play /exit /arcaderender
LaunchBeforeEnabled=false
LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=
LaunchBeforeExecutable=
LaunchBeforeHideWindow=True
LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True
LaunchAfterEnabled=False
LaunchAfterWorkingPath=
LaunchAfterExecutable=
LaunchAfterHideWindow=True
LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
MouseClickFocus=True
FPRAMPath=C:\Pinball\FuturePinball\fpram
[VisualPinball]
Enabled=True
WorkingPath=C:\Visual Pinball
TablePath=C:\Visual Pinball\Tables
Executable=VPinballX.exe
Parameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]"
LaunchBeforeEnabled=False
LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=
LaunchBeforeExecutable=
LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False
LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=False
LaunchAfterEnabled=False
LaunchAfterWorkingPath=
LaunchAfterExecutable=
LaunchAfterHideWindow=True
LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
AutoConfigure=False
EnableFullScreenExclusiveHack=False
ExtraWaitHide=5
LaunchAfterParameters=
[ExitScreen]
Enabled=True
EnableExit=True
EnableShutdown=True
[StartupProgram]
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=
Executable=
Paramaters=
HideWindow=False
WaitForExit=False
[ExitProgram]
Enabled=false
WorkingPath=
Executable=notepad.exe
Paramaters=
HideWindow=False
WaitForExit=
[AttractMode]
Enabled=True
Timer=1
ShowFor=10
MuteAudio=False
[System_1]
Name=MAME
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=C:\Visual Pinball\VPinMAME
TablePath=C:\Visual Pinball\Tables
Executable=PinMAME32.exe
Parameters=[TABLEFILE]
SystemType=0
[AutoExit]
Enabled=False
Minutes=10
[Login]
Enabled=False
StreamQuality=6
[PinballFX2]
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam
Executable=steam.exe
Parameters=-applaunch 226980 "[TABLEFILE]"
Process=Pinball FX2.exe
Rotate=False
WaitFor=20
[PinballArcade]
WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam
Executable=steam.exe
Parameters=-applaunch 238260
Process=PinballArcade.exe
WaitForSelect=50
[GameListManager]
onlinemode=false
[RealDMD]
EnableColor=True
Color=ffff1414
[PinballFX3]
WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam
Executable=steam.exe
Parameters=-applaunch 442120 "-table_[TABLEFILE]"
Process=Pinball FX3.exe
Rotate=False
WaitFor=20
Enabled=True
LaunchBeforeEnabled=True
LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=C:\Users\18059\Desktop
LaunchBeforeExecutable=x360open.bat
LaunchBeforeHideWindow=True
LaunchAfterEnabled=True
LaunchAfterWorkingPath=C:\Users\18059\Desktop
LaunchAfterExecutable=x360close.bat
LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=False
LaunchAfterWaitForExit=False
[Topper]
monitor=2
[VideoCapture]
crf=22
KeysStartRecord=86
KeysEndRecord=86
Seconds=20
UseGPU=True
SavePath=C:\PinballX\Media\Recorded Vids and Shots
UseH265=True
[Internal]
lastwheelcachematchsize=0
lastselected=Harley-Davidson (Stern 1999)Harley Davidson (1991)VisualPinball
filter_year=
filter_company=
filter_custom=
filter_favorites=False
filter_lastplayed=False
filter_mostplayed=False
filtername=Visual Pinball Tables
filter_rating=0
filter_system=Visual Pinball
filter_recentlyadded=False
[Plugin_1]
Enabled=False
Name=PlugInLED.dll
[Plugin_2]
Enabled=False
Name=PlugInSpeech.dll
[Plugin_3]
Enabled=False
Name=QuickLaunch (PinballX Edition).dll
[Plugin_4]
Enabled=False
Name=Xpadder Plugin.dll
[Apron]
monitor=8
[SetupWizard]
EmuPath1=C:\Emulation\Emulators
AssetPath1=C:\Emulation\Assets
ROMPath1=C:\Emulation\ROMs
DefaultPathPrompt=True
DownloadDatabasePrompt=True
DownloadEmulatorPrompt=True
WizardMode=Advanced
SavePosition=False
SearchText=
EmulatorIndex=0
EmulatorGroupIndex=0
DaphneIndex=0
HTMLAppsIndex=0
ExternalAppsIndex=0
RadioStationsIndex=0
NewsFeedsIndex=0
MappedDrivesIndex=0
SystemIndex=0
ShowPanel=True
FontSize=1
WindowSize=1087, 1026
WindowLocation=168, 2413
WindowState=Normal
CustomArray=Joystick Input Settings
SearchArray=
SectionIndex=8
[frmInfo]
Size=386, 322
Location=1309, 3152
WindowState=0
[GameManager]
AutoAddTablesFrontEnd=True

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